Gathering of the Clan

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:05 pm 
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Trout naturally live and thrive in the cooler regions. Canada, of course,...but then New England, New York and Pennsylvania.,,,even a bit of the hilly parts of West Virginia
Anywhere south of that hosts "illegal immigrant" trout, and, that being the case, we should accept the premise that trout in South Carolina and North Carolina, and Georgia are vagrants, foreigners, outsiders.
The bass seem to have it figured out...small-mouth bass stay in the cooler waters and the large-mouth bass wander south...where they are best at home.
Then, man got into the act and started shipping fish "overseas" to places they didn't fit well. The confusion continues...every year. We should have left nature alone. Bux


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:02 pm 
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Unless you’re going to be a technical “purist” and classify brook trout as ‘char’ instead of ‘trout’, then trout are absolutely native to TN, NC, and probably the northernmost confines of eastern GA and western SC. Brook trout were in the southern Appalachians, and fisheries scientists have proven that these fish are a distinctly different sub-species than the “northern” brook trout. Those with the pink stripes and those with the yellow sides are most assuredly immigrants, but not the beautifully painted ones.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:22 am 
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Those rainbow trout and brown trout in Long Island, New England, New York, Pennsylvania, etc. are vagrants, foreigners, and outsiders. The Rainbow Trout came from out west. The browns came from Europe. Prior to the 19th Century, about the time Mr. Laine's family came over, rainbow trout and brown trout were introduced into New York. All of the trout that weren't brookies, of Ed's childhood and manhood, were/are "illegal immigrants."

Brook trout were certainly native to Northeastern Georgia, Eastern Tennessee, Western Carolina, Western Virginia, and on up to even Manhattan and into Maine and Canada.

Of course, the Brookies in the South were far better looking and more polite.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:35 pm 
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"Of course, the Brookies in the South were far better looking and more polite".
Better looking? Better looking than what? Its a fish fer crissakes. More polite? I dont know about you,but I dont want a polite fish on my line,I want an ornery,rude,thrashing fish on mine.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:23 pm 
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That is because you are a New Yorker and, like your fellow New Yorkers, do not understand the stern steel, the resolute resolve, the vicious vitality that a polite, genteel Southerner brings to the fight.

Bobby Jones (the archetype)
Cassius "Mohammed Ali" Clay
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:02 am 
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Caucasian or African roots came from outside the South as well*. They both were invaders of a sort....
the Blacks weren't in the south as tourists, much less natives, they were captured, sold and shipped to the Sunny South by white European immigrants. A mixture of Asians also got here, but they aren't natives anymore than the Greeks, Italians, Germans, French, English, etc.
Before all that happening, we had "Indians" and that's as close to a "native" population as we still have.

*In retrospect, not much of the process was honorable and warmhearted .... but it turned out well for almost all of the parties. There have been very few that dream of returning to the lands of their forebears....except as part of a tour.
"Do ya think you'll ever g' back, Paddy" was an age old quip.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:30 pm 
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As an addendum to my earlier post:

Everything was said, tongue firmly in cheek.


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